• Video rental store to shu

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wed Apr 3 08:39:00 2024
    I do get the take up space bit, though. I am old enough that I have a lot >DW> of VHS tapes that I recorded things on over the years. A lot of them are >DW> getting thrown out as I get a chance. They take up a lot of space on
    shelves that could be used for things I would get more use out of now.

    There are a lot of things people like to do, hobbies, interests, etc. that inv
    ve things that take up space.. Some people like to read books and might have collection of books that take up space. Or, some of us in the BBS community e
    oy retro computers and might have a collection of computer hardware & accessor
    s taking up space. Or, someone who likes working on cars might have a bunch o
    tools taking up space in the garage (and sometimes even a small collection of rs they're working on fixing up). The list goes on..

    That is sort of my thinking here, though. If I get rid of the VHS tapes, I have a lot more space for books or other hobby things. ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Apr 3 08:42:00 2024
    The issue with streaming, for someone who thinks like me anyway, is that there are so many services you would have to subscribe to in order to get what you want. I know people who have replaced cable with streaming but when I talk to them about what services they have, and then calculate the cost, cable (and owning physical media) comes out cheaper.

    cable is expensive though. especially when you have internet/tv/phone.

    it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service.
    or be like me and download whatever you want and use plex.

    *A* streaming service, yes. But then what happens when not everything you
    want to watch is on that one service? If you are like a lot of people I
    know, you get another service... and then another... and then soon it is no longer cheaper than cable.

    When I say "cable" I am not counting the internet or phone in the cost
    because (1) I have to have the internet (probably from cable) to get the streaming service which also makes it a part of the streaming service cost,
    and (2) streaming services won't replace the phone.

    That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is
    cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying
    for that separately, they don't count it either.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Apr 3 09:30:15 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Apr 03 2024 12:34 am

    Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have
    cable TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use
    Plex to DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like
    Jeopardy, Family Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the
    commercials.

    i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch specific tv shows. we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for background noise.

    I don't leave the TV on all day either, and there are specific TV shows I watch from over the air.. I'm not sure I understand your response here. Over-the-air TV is just another way of watching certain shows - some shows are available on over-the-air, and other shows are available elsewhere.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 3 10:49:21 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:42 am

    That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying for that separately, they don't count it either.

    I use the internet for a lot of things, so I wouldn't necessarily count it as a cost for a streaming service. I'm going to have internet service regardless of whether I use a streaming service or not.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 3 18:17:16 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:42 am

    *A* streaming service, yes. But then what happens when not everything you want to watch is on that one service? If you are like a lot of people I know, you get another service... and then another... and then soon it is no longer cheaper than cable.


    just download shit like me.
    or you can subscribe to an iptv provider.

    When I say "cable" I am not counting the internet or phone in the cost because (1) I have to have the internet (probably from cable) to get the streaming service which also makes it a part of the streaming service cost, and (2) streaming services won't replace the phone.


    you can get cable only and just get ooma or something like that

    That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is
    cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying for that separately, they don't count it either.

    usually you will save money by not having cable tv and using streaming.if you are someone who watches tons of shit maybe you will have to get multiple services. shop around. we did it the legit way and saved money. and we do it both ways now. the woman pays for streaming and i download whatever i want.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wed Apr 3 18:19:35 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 09:30 am

    i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch specific tv shows. we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for background noise.

    I don't leave the TV on all day either, and there are specific TV shows I watch from over the air.. I'm not sure I understand your response here.

    what i'm saying is we watch specific things and we get them specificially.

    you watch over the air and that is extremely rare. what you are getting over the air is probably something you can get for free or off some streaming service.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Apr 3 16:57:09 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Apr 03 2024 06:19 pm

    you watch over the air and that is extremely rare. what you are getting over the air is probably something you can get for free or off some streaming service.

    Over the air is free - so I am getting it for free.. If it works, what would be the advantage of getting it from a streaming service instead (even if it was free there)?

    I just checked online for Jeopardy, and apparently I could watch it with a free trial of DirecTV Stream (sounds like I'd have to start paying for it eventually), and if I don't care about DVRing it, it could be streamed live on Paramount+ with ShowTime to stream it live when it airs. I'd still prefer to use my Plex setup, as I can DVR it for free and watch it any time I want.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Apr 4 03:06:22 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 04:57 pm


    Over the air is free - so I am getting it for free.. If it works, what would be the advantage of getting it from a streaming service instead (even if it was free there)?

    I just checked online for Jeopardy, and apparently I could watch it with a free trial of DirecTV Stream (sounds like I'd have to start paying for it

    I think you can watch jeopardy with pluto.tv or some comparable service.

    if it works for you, that's good. I don't know of people buying multiple streaming services. people i know that do it normally stick with one they like.

    my whole life I don't know anybody that uses an over the air antenna even though i know of people that got them when there was a credit.

    apparently there's sites that will show what channels you can pickup in your area. i'm in a 'big' city and i have 10 i can pick up. I don't think i'd like to watch any of these channels, though.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Thu Apr 4 08:47:00 2024
    That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the interne
    which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying for that separately, they don't count it either.

    I use the internet for a lot of things, so I wouldn't necessarily count it as cost for a streaming service. I'm going to have internet service regardless o
    whether I use a streaming service or not.

    Yes, but they cannot watch TV without it, much like they cannot without
    cable or an antenna, so they should count it *IF* they are making a
    comparison to the cost of cable TV.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thu Apr 4 09:50:31 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:06 am

    my whole life I don't know anybody that uses an over the air antenna even though i know of people that got them when there was a credit.

    I'm surprised you've never known anyone watching over-the-air TV. Things like local news & weather, game shows, etc. are often broadcast on such channels, and I've known a lot of people who watch those things sometimes. If you have cable and watch those shows, they're likely on local channels you could also get over the air. There are also a lot of TV series in the past I liked to watch that were broadcast over the air, such as the various Star Trek shows in the 80s and 90s and other things. We often didn't have cable when I was growing up, but we could watch those shows over the air.

    I think you can watch jeopardy with pluto.tv or some comparable service.

    But then it would be difficult to record it and watch it later if I wanted to. I like that Plex lets you do that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thu Apr 4 10:42:25 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:06 am

    if it works for you, that's good. I don't know of people buying multiple streaming services. people i know that do it normally stick with one they like.

    We subscribe to Netflix, Apple TV+, Hulu, Max (HBO), and MLB TV. And it's still much cheaper than than the $120+/month I used to pay to DirecTV.
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to MRO on Thu Apr 4 09:09:00 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: MRO to Ewing on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:08 am

    but like i said, do you NEED it? do you USE it? if not, throw it out.
    I know it's hard for some people because they develop attachments with inanimate objects.

    I consider it similar to coffee table books. Physical media is not only nostalgic, but is a good conversation starter.

    The prison cell aesthetic is also nice.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Apr 4 16:45:04 2024
    Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 09:50 am


    my whole life I don't know anybody that uses an over the air antenna even though i know of people that got them when there was a credit.

    I'm surprised you've never known anyone watching over-the-air TV. Things like local news & weather, game shows, etc. are often broadcast on such channels, and I've known a lot of people who watch those things sometimes. If you have cable and watch those shows, they're likely on local channels you could also get over the air. There are also a lot of TV series in the

    well i wasnt thinking when i said that. what i meant to say was there
    were few people who did it back in the day and after the big bandwidth switch many years ago, i don't know anybody else that did more than play with it. I don't know anybody who continued to use over the air.

    even in a big city my options are really limited.

    most people just prefer to get cable.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Thu Apr 4 21:34:00 2024
    MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I'm surprised you've never known anyone watching over-the-air TV. Things like local news & weather, game shows, etc. are often broadcast on such channels, and I've known a lot of people who watch those things sometimes. If you have cable and watch those shows, they're likely on local channels you could also get over the air. There are also a lot of TV series in the

    well i wasnt thinking when i said that. what i meant to say was
    there were few people who did it back in the day and after the
    big bandwidth switch many years ago, i don't know anybody else
    that did more than play with it. I don't know anybody who
    continued to use over the air.

    even in a big city my options are really limited.

    most people just prefer to get cable.

    There are other use-cases where cable/streaming doesn't work. Where I
    live, there can be power/cable outages due to tropical weather conditions. Sometimes an hour, sometimes a week. For $40 at Walmart, you can buy an over-the-air antenna, and hook it to your TV (coax input). With your generator running to power the TV, you can receive OTA broadcasts *IN HIGH DEFINITION* from your local channel broadcasters. This is very useful in these situations, because that's how you can learn about current/upcoming weather, power restoration efforts, food/water distribution points, and similar. Perhaps even a sporting event or sitcom/show. It's FREE.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Fri Apr 5 08:42:01 2024
    Re: Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 09:34 pm

    There are other use-cases where cable/streaming doesn't work. Where I live, there can be power/cable outages due to tropical weather conditions. Sometimes an hour, sometimes a week. For $40 at Walmart, you can buy an over-the-air antenna, and hook it to your TV (coax input). With your generator running to power the TV, you can receive OTA broadcasts *IN HIGH DEFINITION* from your local channel broadcasters. This is very useful in these situations, because that's how you can learn about current/upcoming weather, power restoration efforts, food/water distribution points, and similar. Perhaps even a sporting event or sitcom/show. It's FREE.

    I fully agree. I don't live in a tropical area, and many people here have cable, but there are a good number of over-the-air TV channels that people can tune in here. I don't actually watch many of the channels, but there several stations with local and national news and weather, as well as TV shows (and as you said, sometimes sporting events - including the super bowl, usually). And especially since it's free and high definition, I'm surprised more people don't use it.

    I don't watch a whole lot of TV, and there are things on over-the-air TV that I like, so I figured why not just use over-the-air? I don't have cable TV.

    Nightfox

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Gamgee on Fri Apr 5 11:52:04 2024
    Re: Re: Video rental store to shu
    By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 09:34 pm

    There are other use-cases where cable/streaming doesn't work. Where I
    live, there can be power/cable outages due to tropical weather conditions. Sometimes an hour, sometimes a week. For $40 at Walmart, you can buy an over-the-air antenna, and hook it to your TV (coax input). With your generator running to power the TV, you can receive OTA broadcasts *IN HIGH DEFINITION* from your local channel broadcasters. This is very useful in these situations, because that's how you can learn about current/upcoming weather, power restoration efforts, food/water distribution points, and similar. Perhaps even a sporting event or sitcom/show. It's FREE.




    I just have a portable radio and a bunch of batteries for weather and emergency reports :-)

    When I was a kid I would watch OTA TV. THen they turned TV into crap and I stopped watching TV altogether. I still have the antenna for getting some sports events my family might want to watch and that'sit.


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